Tatting

topic posted Wed, April 13, 2005 - 3:21 PM by  Missi
How many tatting fans do we have here? I have been tatting for almost 6 years now, and I recommend the silk thread, the smaller the better.
www.threadgatherer.com/fibers/snc.shtml
This site is a wonderful site.....
Do you know of any other great sites to buy good thread???
posted by:
Missi
Salt Lake City
  • Re: Tatting

    Fri, April 15, 2005 - 7:29 PM
    I would love to do tatting if I could.
    I think it is something you would need to learn in person but I remember my Granny doing it and I still have a few of her items around.
    C
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      Mon, April 18, 2005 - 9:20 AM
      That is awesome....it is a dying art and a lot of fun to do...
      Is there anywhere you can learn where you live?
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        Mon, April 18, 2005 - 12:03 PM
        No, I am in a tiny community.
        I have taught myself to knit and cross stitch, so at some point, I may work up the courge and try tatting on my own.
        Maybe if there is a video out there??
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        Sun, August 6, 2006 - 4:54 PM
        Gosh, I thought it was a dying art, too, but once I started looking online I found that it is booming again. There are a lot of tat sites you can go to, blogs and places where you can learn tatting and get patterns. There is so much available it's just incredible. Let me know if you want some site suggestions.
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    Re: Tatting

    Sun, August 14, 2005 - 1:18 PM
    I have recently learned to do tatting. And I know that there is a video out there to show it to you. All in all there is very little to learn in order to do it.
    To learn it I would use a size 20 or a size 30 thread. Crochet cotton works just fine. You can also find DMC threads in those sizes in many colors. The larger threads allow you to see your work easier.
    I never really figured out how to work traditional tatting by flipping stitches. I learned it by making the stitches directly by running two shuttles. I still reverse my work to get the effects correct. about two weeks ago I learned the double up effect on the pulled circles.
    The first piece of tatting that I did I just overlapped the thread to get the circle started then pulled it closed. It has the effect of making a traceable path on the threads over and under as it were. It looks a lot like doing celtic knot work. I have since learned how to make the tatting flat as well.
    At one time I was afraid of making my picots too small but I found that I can use a crochet hook to pull the working threads and have decided that I like the smaller picots for working the connecting picots but I like a little longer for the effect for display picots.
    I love tatting.

    I also do Hardanger stitchery. I am way too fond of these particular forms of handiwork.

    Hello Im new to this tribe btw. I am Mike. Good to meet you all.
    • Re: Tatting

      Mon, August 15, 2005 - 2:12 PM
      Hi Mike, I guess I should have refreshed my browser, or maybe not have waited so long to post...thanks for all your great advice!
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    Mon, August 15, 2005 - 2:08 PM
    I did purchase two tatting shuttles, but haven't yet attempted it. I have some good written instructions with pictures, but it looks daunting. Did you learn from a person or from instructions? What do you recommend using to learn, the silk thread, or just plain? Thanks for the link...I may have to get some, once I learn how to do it!
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      Mon, August 15, 2005 - 3:24 PM
      Hello Mike and Jeanne! It is nice having tatters here. I thought I was the only one for the longest time. I love to tatt, but I use a needle instead of shuttles. I would like to learn the shuttles, but for now I will stick with the easy way. Jeanne, I use both silk and cotton thread. Personally, silk is harder, but I love the end result because it is just so darn beautiful. It feels nicer on my hands too. But Mike is right, cotton 20 - 30 size is easier to begin with. And I also found that at first I was so TIGHT! I wondered why my work would be all bunched together and it's because I didn't relax. Having your work lie flat takes time and LOADS of practice. I have all the old tight ones still and it makes me laugh everytime I look at them. I learned from a lady, which helped, because she showed me, hands on, what I needed to do. Also, have fun while tatting, some people want to be pro's over night, and it just takes practice, lots and lots of practice ;o)
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      Re: Tatting

      Mon, August 15, 2005 - 4:13 PM
      Honestly, the only way you will learn is if you do it. Tatting with shuttles is nearly the same as the tatting on the needle. on the needle if you make a mistake there is not pulling out you just drop the stitches. with a shuttle you can do the tatting just like the needle but the thread is te needle now.
      I learned initially with the help of a friend. I just could not get the whole thread flip thing. since then I just make the DS direct onto the core threads now. Same actions but no need of the flip.
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      Re: Tatting

      Mon, August 15, 2005 - 4:41 PM
      I would start with a simple edging nothing too fancy. you know something like
      R(6ds p 6ds) rw ch 6ds connect P 6ds R(6ds connect to picot last ring 6ds close, R(6ds p 6ds close) rw chain.....

      its a pretty edge for a pillowcase. give that a try with the shuttles and see where it goes.

      • Re: Tatting

        Mon, February 27, 2006 - 5:26 PM
        Hi, new here. I embroidery-cutwork mostly, hand (detest machine, although for some projects don't mind, such as coat borders, etc).

        Nana taught me when I was a girl, tradition that was passed down, crochet and tatting too. But I didn't take up the tatting as much as I did the embroidery and other needlepoint (can do needlepoint, hardanger, etc, smocking) but prefer embroidery including foreign stitches.

        Anyhow I am going to be relearning tatting as I'm in business now (non-profit type) and edgings are just soooo expensive, rather make my own and besides, need to incorporate the materials to work with the textile art, etc. Wanted to say there are some good books on tatting, but GET THE OLDER ONES, better descriptions and with each step rather than just the 1,2,3 steps and then you're left wondering what to do between steps.

        Also in the older books they tend to give hints on works to avoid or mistakes until you become more practiced, etc. I have usually found the older books in thrift stores or used book stores.

        Also use the internet, it does take time, to weed through all the franchise-market but if you google tatting in Italy or similar then usually you can find some very good sites, add instructions to the search.

        Also check with your embroidery guild in your area, often they have classes that are inexpensive and most probably would not even know of them as they aren't advertised, but you can find the embroidery guilds in phonebooks, they'll know who to contact.

        To OP, tatting is, like hand embroidery a lost art, I'm glad you learned it and are continuing to work with it. There is a vast market out there for tatted works too, just be careful though, make sure you get some kind of copywright for any sales (if you ever go that route) so designers can't take the design overseas and exploit via sweatshops, they are doing this big time now. The business I started is a type of women's collective that is combatting sweatshop embroidery/needlepoint/textiles and proceeds of each artwork goes to Women's NGOs fighting gendercide and sweatshop-globalization. Right now its very small, lots to work out but if interested, I will be looking later to recruit independent artists. Only requirement is that they work by hand (not machine, no industry, no fabrics made with dyes in Morocco as they use child labor, prefer recycled fabrics, NO WALMART) and that they (independent workers) sign contract that 10percent of proceeds go to women's ngo outside their country, its international collective btw...as its not a profit only business.

        As this gets going (working out all the legalities right now) I'll post more on the tribes that work in arts/textiles, in case any would like to work with the collective. You keep your profits excluding donations, handle your own taxes, etc...goal is to empower women, take Back the labor and means of production from corporations that exploit hand labor and then turn and sell for hundreds to thousands of dollars a piece, etc.

        Also to take back the ART of women's craft, as it is an ART, not craft (a term that was used by the patriarchs in Victorian-earlier times to denigrate women's art, to prop up man's and academic art as superior, etc).

        ModottiManifest

  • Re: Tatting

    Sat, May 12, 2007 - 5:02 AM
    hi im very new to tatting, dont know head or tail about it.. but im very interested in learning.

    i have visited some sites on the web and tried (oh im having a terrible back pain--- being sticking on to the computer for real long trying to tat!!)

    im stuck in one place, could u "experienced tatters" please help me?

    ok this is where i need help- when u tat with shuttles (2 shuttles), on the secong half of the stitch, how do you flip it?

    im learning from the site

    www.geocities.com/tatrasutr...2tat3.html

    thank you very much. im looking forward to a reply

    • Re: Tatting

      Thu, May 17, 2007 - 9:00 AM
      Sorry Shalindri, I only do needle tatting.....let me look for some books though, I will post later today or tomorrow~
  • Re: Tatting

    Wed, January 2, 2008 - 5:23 AM
    Hi - just found this topic. I see it's been up for quite some time. Anyway, I've been tatting for almost 30 years. I learned from Kaethe Kliot, late lamented owner (with her husband Jules) of Lacis in Berkeley, CA. She was teaching me needlepoint lace when she passed away. I've worked in cotton and linen, but never silk.
    • Re: Tatting

      Wed, January 2, 2008 - 3:47 PM
      Hi All. I also tat and am in the Las Vegas area. I know of another tatter on tribe in Colorado.

      I am a shuttle tatter and use 2 shuttles, but am semi self taught and so I don't "do it right". I have taught several people how to tat, and the best way to describe the Flip part is that it is an adjustment in tension. When you make the knot it wraps around the part of the thread that you are holding tight between your thumb and index finger.you must relax the thread between your index and thumb and tighten the thread from the shuttle, so the knot wraps around it. Then push it down to meet the other stitches.

      This will be well documented in photos, but is not well described - I just looked a Jen's tat-ra sutra, and on about page three she does a really god job of showing and describing this!

      Good Luck.

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